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Judges Corner August – September 2005-  from Hunting Retriever magazine 

by Tim Gibson

As I traditionally do in this issue of the Judge’s Corner, I’m going to take some time to cover a few items I hope you’ll find interesting from HRC’s recent 2005 National Meeting in Memphis.  No, I’m not going to report who may have had one too many Peabody Pleasers, or who led HRC’s contingency to Beale Street.  I’ve got some important information I want to pass to you about rules, judging, and testing issues that came out of both the Field Representatives and the Board of Directors meetings. A few of you, and you know who you are, will no doubt want to skip the next few paragraphs and go directly to the scenarios I have for this issue to find out if I’ve written about the last test you judged!  Please don’t skip ahead.  It won’t change what I wrote about your test. 

Before beginning my National Meeting report, I want to personally thank Dr. Rod Smith and Diana Peacock, our outgoing National President and Secretary respectively for their dedication and service to HRC.  All our membership needs to recognize and appreciate the time and hard work they voluntarily donated to HRC on our behalf.  I’m very excited about our new Executive Committee. Mark and Carol have hit the ground running.  HRC is in great hands when you combine their enthusiasm and new ideas with the steady and experienced leadership of Jim and Lora.  


The Regional Representatives Meeting  

Many of you know that your regional field representatives meet face to face once a year in Memphis in conjunction with the HRC National meeting.  This past year saw some changes in the ranks of the reps due to a couple of retirements, and some additions due to regional splits and expansion.  This resulted in several new faces around the table.  The field rep meeting provided an opportunity for our experienced reps to share their knowledge with the new reps. The reps reported on hunt tests and problems in their regions, discussed judging and testing issues, edited and reviewed Judges/Handlers Seminar material, got up to speed on HRC policy and administrative issues, and met with both UKC and the HRC Executive Committee among other things.  And that was before the first coffee break!  

The field reps were introduced to the new HRC Rulebook, and the 2005 Judges Test.  In fact they were asked to take the test, to which a couple of them replied, “Hey – nobody said anything about having to take a test today!”  Seriously, their review and input resulted in several changed questions that I believe made a vast improvement in the test.  

The reps role in helping new clubs form was reviewed.  HRC wants each rep to assist in accessing the need for a new club in their region, as well as a club’s potential for success.  Involvement of the regional rep will be one of the first steps prospective clubs need to take to become part of our HRC family.  The reps have also been asked to assist in helping HRC “grow” some new judges.  They’ll be asking your club to recommend qualified folks to enter our judging pool and will be more than happy to answer any questions on how to become a judge or maintain a judging license.  A yearly regional seminar schedule was set.  Financial considerations aside, advanced scheduling gives folks more time to plan to attend a seminar, and makes more efficient use of the presenters limited time and HRC’s equipment resources.  Check with your field rep for dates for your next regional seminar, or check the HRC website. 

One new idea that came from the reps discussion of testing and evaluation has already come to fruition and I’m really excited about it. A Handlers Test Briefing Checklist has been developed.  It was felt that many judges could do a better job giving the required test briefings to the assembled handlers.  A clear and concise test briefing would let handlers know exactly what was expected of them and their dog on each portion of the test.  In turn, judges who can clearly explain what they are testing and the objective of each part of their test would be more likely to set up a test that was not skewed toward one testing element or fail to adequately test another.  I’ve got some scenarios for you that I’ve labeled Finished Scenarios 1, 2 and 3 which will illustrate what I’m talking about.  The revised seminar manuals will carry an appendix with an example of a complete Started, Seasoned, and Finished test briefing.  These briefings cover everything about gun safety, the purpose of the test, mechanics and logistics, and test objectives a handler needs to understand.  They also explain undesirable traits the dog should not demonstrate, which if defined in advance will perhaps help handlers understand why their dog might not have met the standard that day.  Judges are encouraged to use these briefings, amend them as necessary, or develop some of their own, and are free to copy or cut them out of their seminar book.  The test briefings are sized so they can be stapled into a rulebook if a judge so desires.  They will also be made available on the HRC website by the time you are reading this article.  

A large portion of the afternoon session of the rep meeting was spent in seminar development and revision.  As I explained in my report to the Board of Directors on Saturday, the Judges/Handlers Seminar is and will most likely always be a work-in-progress.  It’s constantly being fine tuned and new material such as video clips and charts are added when possible.  The reps would be glad to speak with any of you who have ideas that would enhance the seminar experience.  


The HRC Board of Directors Meeting   

2005 being an election year, there was no voting on running rules.  However, the running rules committee met and reported to the Board of Directors that they had received several new rule change proposals from our membership.  These proposals, along with a ballot form will be distributed by November 1 to the clubs for their vote.   The clubs will have until March 1 of 2006 to return their ballots to the running rules committee who will report the results to the HRC Executive Committee.  If a rule proposal does not pass or fail by a 2/3 majority of the votes returned at the Club level, the proposal is brought before the Board of Directors for vote at the 2006 meeting.   No new running rules will become effective until 01-01-2007.  A simple majority vote will determine the outcome of Running Rules proposals voted on at the National meeting.   

I’ve decided not to discuss the proposals at this time.  We have a lot of time before the votes are due and I think it’s best to let the clubs read and review and chew on them awhile. I’m sure there will be considerable discussion of the merits of each proposal at hunt tests and other functions in the next 6 months.  I do want to report that a vote was taken on a policy matter that may affect some folks running tests. 

A motion was made and passed under new business to address and clear up some confusion, and what some were calling a “loophole” in the rulebook about running a dog under an immediate family member.  Our rulebook, page 21, Basic Requirements/Guidelines for Apprentice Judges, Item 10 and page 26, General Information, Item 2 states:  “No dog in contention for points, owned or co-owned by a member of the Judge’s or apprentice’s immediate family or cohabitant of a Judge or apprentice may be entered under the Judge or apprentice.”  There had been some instances of family members of judges attempting to, or in some cases succeeding in entering dogs under the aforementioned judges, claiming this was acceptable because they did not own the dog(s) in question.  Logic says this reasoning defies the spirit and intent of the rulebook and it was addressed in the motion.  The motion changes the rulebook wording I quoted above to in affect say no Handler would be allowed to run a dog under an immediate family member.  As I write this, the official minutes of the meeting are not yet available so I can’t give you the precise wording of the motion.  I apologize for not taking better notes.  I knew I should have taken that shorthand class in prep school!  However, by the time this magazine reaches you, your club president should have a copy of the board minutes in hand and can provide you with the exact wording of the motion.  I should note that since this motion fell within the section of the rulebook that is policy and procedural information, it became effective immediately.  

One more point of information on this topic.  As I noted above, we know that a cohabitant of a judge cannot run under the judge, but to fully understand who can and can’t run under a judge, it’s important that we understand HRC’s definition of “immediate family”.  It can be found no less than four times in the first 25 pages of our rulebook and reads, “… immediate family member (spouse, parent, stepparent, brother, sister, child or stepchild).”  I’ll leave it to you rulebook aficionados to find out exactly where this sentence can be found.  And finally, I urge everyone to voluntarily comply with both the letter and spirit of the rulebook and not try to confuse or bamboozle a hunt test secretary who has no access to your birth or marriage records, or a sample of your DNA!  Let’s get to our first scenario.  It’s a topic the reps asked that I address in this column.  This scenario probably happens at more HRC hunt tests than we realize and it’s an issue that there has been some confusion about.  This particular situation occurred at one of the test sites at the 2005 Spring Grand and I was there when it happened. 


Scenario: 

As instructed the Grand handler had moved through three successive holding blinds with the dog on lead before reaching the staging blind.  This is the what Grand judges call the last holding blind where handlers have a final opportunity to ask questions before taking the lead off their dogs, and stepping forward under judgment.  Someone noticed the handler had a lead and a choke chain collar on the dog.  Word quickly filtered back to the site program directors, which in Grand speak are the folks holding the running order sheets and getting handlers lined up, to keep an eye out and not let this happen again.  There are a couple of questions we can ask about this situation: 

Question(s): 

What about choke chain collars at our HRC hunt tests, and since the handler didn’t try to run the dog with the choke chain collar on, why would being in the holding blinds with one be a problem? 

Answer: 

I happened to be sitting with the program directors under a nice waterproof canopy when they were informed about this.  To my knowledge the dog was allowed to continue the test with no penalty. I assume the judges believed the handler was never told and did not understand this was not permissible. This could stem from being allowed to do it at other hunt tests.  Our rulebook does not specifically mention choke chain collars anywhere, hence some of the confusion about the issue by both handlers and judges.  To find the answers to our questions, we need to look at rulebook wording that might be relative to the topic. Common sense says we should also consider the intent behind the wording.  

I believe there are four areas in the rulebook that are germane to any discussion of choke chain collars.  The first that I hope comes to your mind is safety.  The second would be the prohibition of training aids or training equipment by the handler.  Third is what the rulebook says about intimidation of the retriever, and fourth are the rules about collar use in general.  Let’s take a close look at all four.  

Safety:  Rulebook page 58, Item 6 of the Guidelines For Judges & Conducting Hunts says, “Safety should be the judges main concern..”  If you’ve ever seen a dog hung up on something by their collar in the water, the thought that it might be wearing a choke chain collar and the more the dog struggled the more it choked is pretty horrific.  I don’t think judges need any other reason to prohibit choke chain collars on Started dogs.  Ditto when Seasoned dogs were allowed to wear collars.  Safety issues really don’t apply to our scenario where the dog had the choke chain collar on in the holding blind, but if these few sentences might save a dog at a Started test sometime, they are worth including in our discussion. 

Training Aid:  Under Sportsmanship on page 31, Item 1 of things that “should result in either failure or major markdown” is carrying exposed training equipment to the line or threatening the retriever.  Let’s be honest.  A choke chain type collar, like it’s cousin the pinch collar, is widely recognized and used as a training device, period.  If you’ll concede that point, the rulebook wording under Sportsmanship I noted above answers our question about having a choke chain on only in the holding blinds.  In the process of moving from one holding blind to another, was the dog not “coming to the line” for all practical purposes?  

Intimidation:  Under Handlers at each testing level of our rulebook, we read that: “Handlers shall not have any training aid to intimidate the hunting retriever, i.e. whip, prod, cane, quirt, dummy, weighted or shock collars or other similar equipment at the retrieving line.”  Just for grins, I looked up the word intimidation on dictionary.com.  They say this word means: “To frighten into submission, compliance, or acquiescence. Intimidate implies the presence or operation of a fear-inspiring force.”  They gave the following synonyms for intimidation:  browbeat, bulldoze, cow, bully.  Interestingly, they noted that the word cow “implies bringing out an abject state of timorousness and often demoralization”.   Ironically, the example they used was:  a dog that was cowed by abuse!    Now that you’ve had today’s dictionary lesson, I’ll get to the point.  Judges have no way of determining if a handler has used this type collar in training to intimidate the retriever.  So it’s not the use of choke chain collars, i.e. tugging and jerking and restraint, but the threat of use by their presence that makes them unacceptable at our hunts.  

Speaking about intimidation, I have a good story for you.  It seems there was a pro trainer at a big retriever event waiting in a holding blind near the gallery with a young, high rolling dog who was getting ready to run the most difficult test of it’s life. Of course the dog was getting more wound up by the second.  A little old lady was walking by and stopped near the holding blind.  She knew nothing about retrievers or tests.  She walked up to the handler and said, “My that’s a pretty dog.  May I pet him?”  The old pro looked at her, looked at the dog, looked out over the bear of a test, then turned to her and said, “No lady, but feel free to kick the crud out of him”! 

Use of collars at HRC hunt tests:  The majority of handlers at our hunts use a simple slip lead in lieu of a collar with lead attached, the Started level perhaps being the exception, and there are a couple of reasons why.  A slip lead is easy to remove and easy to put in a pocket.  We all know a Started dog can run with a collar. In all other test levels, dogs will not run with a collar, however, they are to be brought to the holding blind on lead, and in Seasoned they walk to the line on lead.  It’s obvious, but worth re-stating that in the case of the Seasoned walk-up test, the retrieving line is the point where the walk-up begins.  Many don’t think about this, but a Seasoned dog is being judged from the holding blind to the line.  Our rulebook states on page 40, Item IV:  “The Judges should look for the dog that walks obediently to the line….” I can make the case that like our Finished and Grand levels, the Seasoned test begins when the dog leaves the holding blind.  The dog is to be brought to the line on lead, yet Seasoned dogs can’t run the test with a collar, ergo the slip lead.  So why not a choke chain collar and lead?  Training aid issues aside, don’t they both work the same way in that when you pull on them they tighten around the dog’s neck?  The answer is really quite simple.  A slip lead is a lead whereas a choke chain collar/lead combo is exactly that:  a collar with a lead attached.  

So take your pick from any of the four reasons I’ve given, but let’s all agree to leave our choke chain collars in the truck at the next hunt test. And don’t make your poor grandma come to the hunt unless she really wants to.  Now we’ll take a look at some tests I mentioned earlier that I hope you’ll find interesting.  


Finished Test 1: 

This water series consisted of a mark thrown 20 yards down from the line and about 10 yards upwind from the line to the blind.  Handlers were told to leave the mark and run the blind which was past a scented point about 50 yards out then down the shoreline another 50 yards.  After the dog returned with the blind the handlers shot a double and picked up all three marks.   

Finished Test 2: 

The land series consisted of a single mark thrown on the right that handlers were told to leave and run the blind.  After the blind the handlers sat back down on the bucket and got a mark on the left.  The dogs were required to pick up the left mark and got a diversion on the return.  They could then pick up the right mark.   

Finished Test 3: 

This Finished land series saw a mark coming from the left that a “bubba” gunner shot.  Another mark then came from the right and again a second “bubba” shot it.  The handlers did not shoot at these marks.  They were told to send their dogs for either mark, and they would get a diversion on the return of the first retrieve.  They were to leave the second mark and pick up the blind.  After the blind they were free to pick up the remaining mark.   

Question: 

Boy, do I have several, but the foremost is; what were these judges thinking? 

Answer: 

These scenarios are typical of many I receive.  I have more but these three will do for the purpose I’m using them for.  When I told you about the new Test Briefings earlier, I mentioned tests that were skewed toward one testing element or failed to adequately test another.  I want you to consider the sequencing and presentation of the elements of these tests, and the required order of the retrieves.  A good way to do this is to look at what I’ll call a flowchart of the test.  What we have is the following:

 

Test 1:            Sequence:  Single mark - blind - double mark 

                         Retrieves:  Blind – mark, mark, and mark

Analysis:            This test is heavy on control given the poison bird, running past the scented point, and dealing with the shoreline.  Although the dogs pick up three marks in a row, they are really getting a single and a double mark thrown for them.  No triple marked retrieve. 

Test 2:            Sequence:  Single mark - blind - single – diversion

                        Retrieves:  Blind – mark – diversion – mark

Analysis:            These judges blew the marking test.  Not even a double mark thrown.  All singles.  This would not be a legal Finished test.  

 

Test 3:            Sequence:  Double mark

                        Retrieves:  Mark – diversion – blind – mark

Analysis:            Very poor marking test.  Of all three pairs of judges, these let the dogs see a double mark before being cast from the line.  Of course why let the handler shoot at the marks or pick them up clean when you can tell them they have to pick up a diversion and blind before retrieving the last mark.   

None of these judges did an adequate job setting up a Finished level marking test.  No triples, and enough “distractions” in either the sequencing of the throws or the pick up order that it would be nearly impossible to make a good evaluation of marking skills.  I’m curious about how they would decide if it was okay to handle to one of the marked retrieves?  Were they going to only pass dogs that did not handle to any mark?  Perhaps they had a curve of some sort in mind.   

My point is judges need to understand exactly what they are required to test.  They must understand the need to set up a solid test to do so.  Our rulebook stresses this point early on when it talks about Tests on page 28:  “Merely throwing a few birds in the field and sending a dog out after them will not serve the purpose of the tests and most likely will not allow the Judge the opportunity to judge a true hunting retriever.  The test must be designed, laid out, and executed in such a manner as to enable the Judge to evaluate certain hunting qualities; e.g., marking, nose, desire.”  Take a look at the new Handlers Test Briefings and let me know if you think they will help some of these judges. 

I want to close with a note of congratulations.  HRC recently awarded Honorary Lifetime Membership to Bill Rath, Don Ley, and Roger Davis.  It has been my pleasure to know each personally and an honor to call each of them my friend.  If you’ve never believed anything else I’ve ever written in this column, believe this:  HRC could not have found three more deserving members for this honor.  They truly have, to paraphrase our Judges Code of Ethics, set an example for which future HRC members and participants will seek to aspire. 

We hope the “Judge’s Corner” will both entertain and inform you.  

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