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JUDGES CORNER - December 1995 - January 1996 - Hunting Retriever magazine

by Tim Gibson    

As much as we have attempted to improve and refine our HRC Rulebook and develop a comprehensive and complete set of rules and guidelines to judge our retrievers by, we all understand our rulebook is not a perfect document. Some say it's not as specific as it should be and contains vague and contradictory material. I'm not sure our HRC Rulebook was intended to give us the answers to every judging scenario. We place a lot of faith in HRC judges' abilities to look at our retrievers and make good judgmental decisions about the retriever's performance based on our philosophy of judging retrievers in "hunting" tests and evaluating them as useful "hunting" companions. A good judge will look at the intent of the rule or guideline as it applies to a hunt test scenario for help in evaluating the retriever's performance and making those tough decisions in the field. With these thoughts in mind, let's look at our first situation.    


Situation:  

The retriever at the Finished Test was steady at the line, swung with the gun and appeared to have marked the triple well. The retriever picked up the short left hand bird, came back to beet and lined itself up on the two birds to the right (an in-line double). The dog went for the deep bird first, picked it up clean and started back. On the return, the retriever ran right over the short mark, stopped and clearly switched birds, then completed the delivery. The dog then went right back and got the deep mark it had just dropped.  

Question:  

Should this retriever be failed for switching?  

Answer:  

Surprisingly, our HRC Rulebook makes no mention of switching on "marks." All the discussion of switching in the Rulebook occurs when discussing diversion birds. The dog's handler attempted to make the case that it was okay for the retriever to switch on a mark as the Rulebook did not specifically say it was a failure. Hey, you have to give the handler credit for reading the rulebook.  

Judges specifically test for a switch with the diversion bird, but sometimes inadvertently test for it with the marks as in the above example, or in the case of a mark that did not land where it was supposed to, or a dog that takes an indirect return path. The Rulebook defines switching as "the dog dropping one bird and picking up the other bird" (Rulebook page 18). The dog can be marked down for "repeated dropping of the bird" (Rulebook page 9). The switch is a markdown at the Seasoned level and a failure at Finished when it occurs on the return. From a hunting perspective, it's very desirable that hunting dogs keep the bird in its mouth and complete the delivery. The intent of the Rulebook is clear - that the Finished dog not "switch," whether it be to a diversion or another mark. The Rulebook section-discussing switching could be worded a little better. The judges were correct in failing the dog for switching on the mark. We discuss the subject of switching in detail in the Judges/Handlers Seminar. Our next scenario occurs at the Seasoned Land Test.    


Situation:  

The Seasoned retriever was coming in with its second bird of the double when the diversion was thrown. The dog saw the diversion. it was properly thrown well to the side of the retriever and not across its return path. When sent for the diversion, the dog had difficulty locating the bird. After a few passes close to the bird, the handler elected to blow the whistle and help the dog pick it up. The judges failed the dog for not marking the diversion.  

Question:  

Were the judges correct?  

Answer:  

The real question here is: Should a diversion be judged as a mark? For the answer, let's again look to the intent of the rulebook. As we discussed in the first question, the purpose of a diversion is to test for the switch. In this case, will the Seasoned retriever coming in with a bird drop it and pick up another? The judges specifically test for marking by having the handler shoot at thrown birds while the retriever is at heel (did the retriever swing with, the gun, see the birds and proceed toward the area of the fall)? While most retrievers seem capable of marking diversions quite well, asking a retriever to mark a fall from one position and then retrieve it from another can be difficult. If we were to judge diversions as marks, should we not ask our judges to go out into the field, get down on their knees and look at the diversion from the retriever's point of view? To truly judge if the dog marked the diversion, should we not take the dog out to the spot where it was when the diversion was thrown and send it from there?  

The judges should not have failed the retriever for not "marking" the diversion. This is not to say the retriever should not be in control, etc., when being handled to the bird. That's a different area of judgement. By the way, our HRC Rulebook specifically requires the Seasoned retriever to retrieve the diversion (HRC Rulebook, page 17)., There is no mention in the Finished rules about the Finished dog having to retrieve the diversion (another Rulebook oddity). Our last question concerns a situation that occurred at the Finished level, although this scenario could happen at any level of testing.   


Situation:  

The retriever had been doing a pretty good job on the marking test and had only one more bird to pick up. The dog seemed to have marked the bird when it was thrown and proceeded toward the area of the fall when cast from the line. The dog began to hunt for the bird. After a couple of unproductive passes through the fall, the handler elected to handle the dog. The only problem was, the handler didn't know exactly where the bird was. After a couple of minutes, the handler sat the dog down, turned to the judges and asked if they knew where the bird was. One judge commented that be thought the bird was about 20 yards to the right. The handler had actually been handling the dog away from the fall. Sure enough, when sent back to the right, the dog completed the retrieve. The judges failed the dog. When asked why at the conclusion of the hunt, the judges stated. "Because the dog had to be helped to pick up the bird.  

Question:  

Should the dog have been failed?  

Answer:  

Our judges did a couple of things wrong in this situation. First, it is almost never a good idea to attempt to tell a handler where a bird has fallen. If it's not where you tell the handler it is, you know who will get the blame for the dog not picking it up. We discuss this detail in the judges/Handlers Seminar. In this scenario, it appears the dog did everything right, and if any aid was given, it was to the handler, not the dog.

            Second, the judges need to review what the Rulebook says about assisting a retriever. The only mention of this is in the Started guidelines, page 14, where it is suggested that a Started dog who is unproductive after a second attempt be assisted by the bird boys in completing the retrieve., And then, the judges are required to inform the handler that dog has failed the test. This retriever should not have been failed. 

            We hope the Judge's Corner will both entertain and inform you. 

            Answers to your questions will come from the HRC Rulebook, the Judges/Handlers Seminar, and the consensus opinion of your Regional Field Representatives.   

   

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